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INTERVIEW: David Salem on Risk, Regime Change and Compounding Capital Across Market Cycles

For David Salem, successful investing starts with a simple objective: compound capital over time without exposing investors to the kind of major drawdowns that can permanently damage wealth. As Portfolio Manager of the Hedgeye Capital Allocation ETF (HECA), Salem takes a flexible, global approach that can move across asset classes as the macro environment and market signals change.
 
At the center of that process are Hedgeye's Quads framework and Hubble Signals, which together help determine where risk is being rewarded and where it should be reduced. The result is a strategy designed to "go anywhere, but not everywhere." In the conversation below, Salem explains why diversification does not mean owning everything, how HECA distinguishes genuine regime change from short-term noise, why avoiding unforced errors matters and why humility remains one of the most important traits any portfolio manager can have.

1. For readers who've never heard of HECA — how would you describe the fund's approach in simple terms: what's it actually trying to do?

HECA is essentially trying to compound capital across market cycles while seeking to avoid the kind of large drawdowns that can permanently impair wealth. We can invest globally across asset classes, but we don't have to own everything. We let the macro environment and market signals tell us where we believe we're being compensated for taking risk.


2. When you look at markets, what indicators or signals do you pay attention to before anything else?

Two things are central: Quads and Signals.


Quads tell us where an economy sits based on whether real GDP growth and inflation are accelerating or decelerating. That gives us a fundamental roadmap for the types of assets that historically perform well or poorly in a particular macro environment.


Signals tell us what the market itself is doing. Hubble examines factors including rates of change in price, trading volume and volatility, as well as how far prices have diverged from trends across different durations.


Importantly, Signals generally receive roughly three times the weight of Quads in Hubble. So the macro forecast matters, but HECA isn't simply making a macro prediction and blindly positioning around it.


3. What is one market misconception you believe investors repeatedly fall for?

One misconception is that diversification means you always need to own some of everything. I don't think that's true. Diversification is a means of managing risk, not an obligation to hold unattractive assets. That's part of what we mean when we say HECA can "go anywhere, but not everywhere."


4. How often does the portfolio actually change, and what's the difference between a shift driven by genuine regime change versus short-term noise?

Hubble is recalculated every trading day, typically within an hour of the NYSE open. But that doesn't mean HECA trades the portfolio every day.


In fact, the process has an explicit bias toward inaction. Portfolio changes are generally gradual rather than abrupt, although the team remains willing to make major changes when macroeconomic or market developments justify them.


That's an important distinction: new information doesn't automatically catalyze a new position. A genuine regime shift should increasingly show up in both the fundamental Quad outlook and the market's price, volume, volatility and trend data.


5. One of the things that stands out about HECA is the focus on avoiding drawdowns or peak-to-trough declines exceeding 15%. What does that process actually look like day-to-day? What's the trigger that tells you it's time to de-risk?

Fifteen percent isn't a stop-loss where we suddenly wake up at a 14% drawdown and sell everything. The drawdown constraint influences how we manage the portfolio every day. We're continuously asking how much correlated downside risk we're taking and whether we're still being adequately compensated for it.


Every day, Hubble updates the relative risk/reward of the investment universe. That includes market momentum, price, volume and volatility alongside the evolving Quad outlook. As those conditions deteriorate, Hubble can cause individual exposures to become less attractive, allowing risk to be reduced incrementally rather than waiting for the portfolio to undergo or approach a 15% drawdown.


6. What's one behavioral trait you believe every PM absolutely needs to have — something you'd consider non-negotiable regardless of asset class or strategy?

Humility. Markets have a way of reminding you that conviction and correctness aren't the same thing. You need a process that allows you to recognize when the evidence has changed and change your positioning with it. 


7. Did you play any sports growing up, or follow one closely — and is there a lesson from that world that quietly shows up in how you think about risk today?

I'm a big tennis fan, and I think there's a useful parallel between tennis and investing. Charles Ellis called investing a "loser's game," and the basic idea is similar to tennis: if you consistently get the ball back over the net and avoid unforced errors, you put yourself in a very good position. Investing isn't about hitting a winner on every point. A lot of it is about avoiding the mistakes that can knock you out of the game—too much leverage, too much concentration, or too much confidence in something simply because it has been working. That's very much how I think about risk in HECA: remain disciplined, trust the process and the signals, and recognize that successful investing is ultimately probabilistic.

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Fund holdings are subject to change at any time and should not be considered a recommendation to buy or sell any security

 

Definitions

 

Drawdowns: Drawdowns are the measurement of a decline in the value of a portfolio from a peak to a subsequent trough, in percentage terms.

 

Quads: Quads as used here mean the evolving locations of each of 50+ national economies within four-quadrant plots like the stylized example below in which the vertical axes measure rates of change (ROCs) in real or inflation-adjusted Gross Domestic Product and the horizontal axes measure ROCs in CPI inflation (or its closest equivalent for countries not reporting CPI inflation per se)

 

Signals: Signals as used here mean a carefully defined set of security-specific indicators that the Manager deems useful in estimating the future price trajectory of securities comprising the Fund’s selection universe. Some of these indicators are proprietary . Most are not, although their precise use reflects weighting schemes crafted by the Manager (and embodied in Hubble Ranks) that are presumably unique to HAM.

 

Go anywhere but not everywhere: "Go anywhere but not everywhere" refers to the approach of investing in a wide range of assets and geographies (going anywhere), but not blindly investing in everything (not everywhere).

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Hubble: Hubble is a proprietary algorithm used by the manager to generate composite assessments of securities’ risk and return prospects over rolling 9–12 month periods, incorporating both Quad- and Signal-related variables.

 

Important Information

 

Before investing in the fund, the investment objective, risks, charges and expenses must be considered carefully before investing. The statutory and summary prospectus contain this and other important information about the fund. Copies of the fund’s prospectus may be obtained by visiting www.hedgeyeam.com/HECA or calling +1 (888) 711-8292. Read it carefully before investing.

 

Investing involves risks including the risk of principal loss. The Adviser is newly formed and has not previously managed an ETF. Accordingly, investors in the Fund bear the risk that the Adviser's inexperience may limit its effectiveness. 

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Diversification does not assure a profit nor protect against loss in a declining market.

 

The Fund is non-diversified, which means that it may invest a large percentage of its assets in a particular issuer and increases the risk that the value of the Fund could decrease due to poor performance of a single investment or limited number of investments.

 

The Fund is a recently organized management investment company with no operating history. As a result, prospective investors do not have a track record or history on which to base their investment decisions.

 

As an actively managed investment portfolio, the Fund is subject to the Adviser's investment decisions about individual securities impact on the Fund's ability to achieve its investment objective. there is no guarantee that the Adviser's investment strategy will meet it's investment objective or produce the desired results. Large cap companies may be less able than mid and small capitalization companies to adapt to changing market conditions. Investments in stocks of mid-capitalization companies may be subject to more abrupt or erratic market movements

 

The Fund's investment strategies may employ quantitative algorithms and models that rely heavily on the use of proprietary and non-proprietary data, Models may also have hidden biases or exposure to broad structural or sentiment shifts. There can be no assurance that use of a quantitative model will enable the Fund to achieve positive returns or outperform the market.

 

When the Fund uses derivatives, there may be imperfect correlation between the value of the underlying instrument and the derivative, which may prevent the Fund from achieving its investment objective.

 

ETFs are subject to additional risks that do not apply to conventional mutual funds, including the risks that the market price of an ETF's shares may trade at a premium or discount to its net asset value, an active secondary trading market may not develop or be maintained, or trading may be halted by the exchange in which they trade, which may impact an ETF's ability to sell its shares. Shares of any ETF are bought and sold at market price (not NAV) and are not individually redeemed from the ETF. Brokerage commissions will reduce returns.

 

The Distributor is Foreside Fund Services, LLC.

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